I tend to tune out whatever nonsense comes out of conservative MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk’s mouth, but then I remember we live in a country where thousands of people follow him for their political opinions, and I am suddenly curious why someone would do such a thing.
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My curiosity piqued into action this past week after seeing that hundreds of women, whose values are centered on “faith, family, country,” came together for the 2025 Young Women’s Leadership Summit (YWLS), reportedly the “largest conservative gathering for women in the country.” The summit was held by Kirk’s conservative nonprofit organization, Turning Point USA, which focuses on spreading conservative values to young adults, particularly on college campuses and in the media.
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And to my horror, but (unfortunately) not to my surprise, a clip circulating on social media shows Charlie Kirk delivering a profoundly regressive response to a 14-year-old girl interested in political journalism asking for his advice on college.
First, Kirk asked the audience of teen girls if their top priority is to “get married and have kids.” After some hands went up, he said, “Interestingly, I think there is an argument to bring back the M-R-S degree.”
For those unfamiliar, a “Mrs. degree” is a sexist term that gained popularity in the mid-20th century to mock women who supposedly went to college just to find a husband.
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But here’s the thing: in a time when women couldn’t open bank accounts, buy homes, or build credit without a man, marriage was often the only path to security and social acceptance. Women were shamed for seeking the very stability that society limited them to. Higher education was, in itself, a radical act — a way for women to claim independence, knowledge, and autonomy.
So, in a way, cheekily calling it a “Mrs. degree” was just a coded effort to try and remind women what they were “really” there for. Not to get their own education and career, and essentially a pathway to some patriarchal freedom, but to find a man who gets to do that instead, so they support his ambitions while being confined to domesticity, reproducing the very system designed to keep them dependent.
And yet, here is Kirk, reviving the same tired logic in 2025. After the audience lightly laughed at the term, he doubled down, “NO, seriously. Just be clear that’s why you’re going to college, right?”
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He then mocked women who thought they were going to school for…well, school. “Don’t lie to yourself, like, ‘Agh, I’m going, I’m studying sociology,'” Kirk said. “No, you’re not, we know why you’re here. And that’s OK, actually! That’s a really good reason to go to college, actually.”
Then came dating advice. He suggested young women should consider looking for husbands at Southeastern Conference (SECC) schools, in particular. “Like, you will find a husband, if you have the intent to find a husband at Ole Miss. Like, it’s just going to happen, OK. Or wherever. Or at the University of Alabama,” he said.
Keep in mind: this is the same guy who wrote The College Scama book arguing that universities are “bankrupting and brainwashing America’s youth” with “far-left professors.” Yet, here he is, suddenly pro-college, if it means becoming a modern young tradwife. “I say college is a scam, but if you’re going to find your life partner, that’s actually a really good reason to go to college,” he said.
He then romanticized college being a great time to partner up because, ya know, “they’re at the prime of their attractiveness.” He said, “You don’t get much better than that. It doesn’t get better after college there.”
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Then he delivered this intelligent line: “And, so yeah, you could go learn some stuff, that’s fine, I guess, or whatever, just don’t listen to your professors.” He insisted, again, that the “Mrs. degree” was the real reason women went to college in the ’70s, ’80s, and ’90s, and that this is why marriage rates have “plummeted” since.
Yeah, sure, Jan, or maybe marriage rates dropped because generations of women got the memo not to spend their lives with men who think like…you?
Anyway, I’m clearly not the only one screaming into the void. Here’s what people have said online:
“these creepy weirdos dream of having trad wives because women can’t stand them. Instead of self improvement they choose to indoctrinate young girls into thinking they aren’t huge losers,” one person wrote.
“THIS is what grooming actually looks like,” another added.
“hope the majority of these girls do go to college and gain insight, knowledge, and life experience that allows them to break from this conservative brainwashing <3 i also hope they all actually graduate with a degree, unlike charlie! :)," this user said.
(Charlie Kirk does not have a college degree. He attended a community college briefly but dropped out.)
Another wrote“I’m grateful that I grew up with strong men and women who encouraged me to explore the world, seek knowledge, and grow with God. The saints we studied, especially the women, were educated and adventurous. I can’t imagine being 14 and told to chase an MRS degree.”
“This is so weird,” one simply put.
Some pointed out a broader issue, which is that women are outperforming men in education and the workforce, so “suddenly there’s a ‘crisis'”:
“It’s obvious that they are afraid of women,” one wrote.
And then, there was this dad, who kinda made me want to cry to see a man so beautifully see us and future generations of women as human:
Well, all I can say is exactly what he said. Our daughters, and all women, are worth far more than the only option being finding a husband to have babies with. We didn’t claw our way into classrooms, workplaces, leadership roles, and positions where we make our own choices in life just to be told to sit back down, shut up, and be a good wife. If this is your grand vision for the future of American women, then the real scam here isn’t college, it’s you.
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